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Re: English notation

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Friday, June 29, 2001, 21:18
Christian Thalmann wrote:

> Raymond Brown wrote: > >>æ = /E/ in _æni_, /{/ in _ænd_ and _dhæt_. >> >>The phoneme /E/ is spelled {æ} in _æni_, but as {e} in _dhem_. > Isn't [E] just a phonetic realization of the phoneme /æ/ in this context?
Plainly no: "any" is /Eni/ and "Annie" is /&ni/. "Any" is now an irregular spelling.
> Spelling reforms in general feel "imperial" to any established English > speaker. It won't happen in this century, just as the metric system > won't be made official in the US in this century, for the same reason.
Gak, I hope metrication is not *that* far off!
>>In words like _curry_ and _hurry_ we have [V]. >>But I'm afraid that by adopting a _phonetic_ approach to spelling reform, > > Did I? Now I'm confused.
The problem with Christian's system is not that it is not phonemic (so Raymond), but that it is insufficiently cross-dialectal. This is a hard problem. Axel Wijk (the Regularized Inglish creator) was careful to use both Longmans and Kenyon & Knott, and even he had to allow that some words will be spelled differently across the Pond: e.g. "paath" vs. "path". -- There is / one art || John Cowan <jcowan@...> no more / no less || http://www.reutershealth.com to do / all things || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan with art- / lessness \\ -- Piet Hein

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