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Re: Codename "de" (was Re: Country names in national languages)

From:P. M. Arktayg <pmva@...>
Date:Sunday, May 12, 2002, 14:49
Frank George Valoczy ta nugatu-r:

[...]

Polish names _We,gry_, _We,gier_, _we,gierski_ from Latin _Hungaria_, I
think. From Hungarian _magyar_ -- Polish colloquial _Madziar_.

> Finnish:
> Italy = Italia
Polish _Włochy_, from an old (non-Slavonic) name applied to non-Slavic, non-Germanic peoples/tribes; cf. _Walia_ 'Wales', _Wol/oszczyzna_ 'Vallachia'.
> Germany = Saksamaa
> Hungarian odd names of European countries:
Why "odd" and not "even"? ^_^
> Russia = Oroszorsza'g [orosorsa:g] > Belarus = Fehe'roroszorsza'g [fehe'rorosorsa'g] (lit "white russian > country")
What are [e'] and [a']? Fast typing?
> Poland = Lengyelorsza'g [lEnd_jElorsa:g] (from ???)
Ancient Polish tribe _Le,dzianie_.
> Slovakia = Szlova'kia [slova:kiA] or To'torsza'g [to:torsa:g]. To't is the > Hungarian name for Slovaks, origin ??
Maybe something to do with mountains called in Polish, Slovak and Czech _Tatry_.
> Croatia = Horva'torsza'g [horva:torsa:g] from "hrvat"
> Serbia = Szerbia [sErbiA] or Ra'corsza'g [ra:tsorsa:g] from a Serbian > word, cf "Ras<ka Gora" (place in Bosnia)
> Transylvania = Erde'ly [Erde:j]
Polish _Siedmiogród_ (~ 'seven cities/castles/boroughs'? -- I don't know the English equivalent of Polish _gród_, cf. German _Siebenbürgen_); and _Transylwania_ of Latin origin.
> Greece = Go"ro"gorsza'g [g2r2gorsa:g]
> Italy = Olaszorsza'g . The only thing I've heard about the origin of the > name is that it's related to "Ola'h" [ola:h], one of the Roma > "nationalities" (Vlax Roma), but I'm not certain if this is the case > indeed).
> Germany = Ne'metorsza'g, probably from Slavic
There is no doubt -- Slavonic; cf. Polish _Niemcy_ 'Germany', _Niemiec_ 'German (n.)', _niemiecki_ 'German (adj.)'. In colloquial Romanian is _neamt,_ 'German' of Slavonic origin too (but officially _german_).
> Switzerland = Sva'jc [Sva:jts] from German "Schweiz"
> Georgia = Gru'zia [gru:ziA] from Russian?
Polish _Gruzja_, Russian _Gruzija_. Origin unknown (?). In Georgian there is _Sakartvelo_ 'Georgia', _Kartveli_ 'Georgian', according to a legend, from _Kartlos_, the eponymos of Georgians.
> Armenia = O"rme'nyorsza'g [2rme:n_jorsa:g] from Turkish?
> Austrian (adj and A. person only) = osztra:k [ostra:k], from "Oesterreich"
[...] -- /\ P. M. Arktayg mailto:pmva@avenned.com /\ \/ "rubba s.idqin ka:na ’akd_aba min kid_bin" \/ \/\/ 'często prawda jest bardziej kłamliwa niż kłamstwo' \/\/

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