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Re: [p]>[m]?

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 17:17
Hi!

Joseph B. writes:
> Given a pre-bronze people whose L1 contains [m] as the only bilabial but is > rich in aspirated & non-aspirated dentals, velars, and uvulars: how would > they most likely hear and reproduce initial [p] & [p_h] and terminal [p_}] > on first encountering a foreign language with all 3? Would [p] & [p_h] > collapse to [m]? and [p_}] to [?]?
I think final [p_}] would quite probably become [m] as it is very close. One distinction between [p] and [m] is the release and when it's missing, I have no doubts [m] could be perceived as [m]. Try pronouncing final [p_}] vs. final [m_0] -- they are almost indistinguishable. As to initial [p] and [p_h], I think it would not be infeasible either to collapse into [m], but I could also imagine them being mimicked by velars [k] and [k_h]. Switches do happen in natlangs, although I can't come up with a pure switch (without labial context), but e.g. g
> b, in Rom. and Sard.(some dialects) lingua > limba, by influence of
-u-. As a side note, Korean borrowed Chinese [v] or [w] as [m], e.g. 'Taiwan' is /t&man/ in Korean (maybe this is a bit antiquated, however, and nowadays it is really /taiwan/). **Henrik

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