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Re: Fruitcakes was Re: Kentum/satem

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, May 3, 2002, 13:37
En réponse à Maarten van Beek <dungeonmaster@...>:

> > Brr.... those voicing southeners with their [G]'s and [z]'s where > every > normal Hollander would pronounce [x] and [s].
Well, even Northerners tend to have [z] between vowels. Or so I hear it. And [G] is a hundred times softer than [x] for my throat :)) . And you pronounce /eu/ as
> a > [2y] diphtong?
Maybe more [2H] (with the rounded version of [j]), but the whole diphtongue is definitely rounded. My relatives from Belgium pronounce it something like
> ['G2jz@,nam], but then again, we can hardly call them still Geuzen. >
I think it's probably the same pronunciation. Is the off-glide really unrounded? If it's rounded, then it's [2H], which is basically what I meant (in fast speech, the difference between [2H] and [2y] is too small to be heard by me anyway, so it could be any of the two without me knowing which one :)) ). I admit I don't understand the last remark. Please explain! Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>
Maarten van Beek <dungeonmaster@...>