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Re: A question of semantics

From:Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 1:47
Estel Telcontar wrote:
> I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with it either, though I'm trying to > figure it out. It may be a case where - how do I explain this? - the > statement is technically correct because it includes what I want to > express, but unsatisfyingly inaccurate because its centre or focus is > not on what I want to express. Almost as if the statement I make draws > a circle around a some semantic territory, and my meaning is inside the > correct semantic territory, but not near the middle, and I feel that > when my statement is received, the listener/reader will automatically > understand something near the middle of the circle of semantic > territory. Whether or not this is such a case, I know I've found cases > like that.
Well, the way to solve that is to turn 'I think' from pronoun+verb into fixed phrase with a particular meaning, isn't it now? :) Go spread a reanalysis :)
> I understand your point, and I can't find any flaws in your argument, > but somehow it doesn't satisfy me. Perhaps it's an issue with > different kinds of thinking - > 1. thinking on an uncontrolled, not necessarily rational, intuitive > level, which does think I saw Jenny. > and > 2. thinking on a rational, controlled, I'd almost say conscious, level, > on which for no instant do I think I saw Jenny. > > And perhaps I shy away from saying "I think/thought I saw Jenny" > because I expect it to be understood with "think 2" not "think 1". > > Does that make any sense?
Yeah, I think it does. I can understand your problem, but at least in this case I wouldn't care about the difference for myself :) (IIRC, Old English had two words, þenc and þinc, for these two kinds of thinking, but I'm probably wrong (they merged because /E/>/I/ before [N], hence ink, English).) -- Tristan <kesuari@...> C: I'm sick of hearing about personal responsibility! I've already dóne my part to make the world a better place to live. H: Really? C: Sure! I was bórn! H: Oh yes, I forgot to thank you. C: Join the club! ---Calvin and Hobbs