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Re: Problems with Ayeri

From:Carsten Becker <post@...>
Date:Monday, June 28, 2004, 13:08
Hey!

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From: David Peterson
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with Ayeri

>> I'm not sure what was meant by scrapping the vocabulary and
starting over from scratch, but I think I sort of agree. << Trebor meant exactly what you wrote further down - dumping my vocabulary (or at least putting aside a copy of it) and re-start from the beginning.
>> Most of those sound changes are just impossible. I mean, I suppose
they could happen over millenia (anything can happen, right?), but I don't think it'd be worth your time to try to come up with real sound changes. << Agreed. I said these changes are not justifyable with sound changes.
>> Rather than just dumping your old vocabulary, keep it all, and just
use the alterations you suggest, and basically pretend that they were that way the whole time. But in doing this, make a copy of your old Ayeri and keep it somewhere. << Everytime I have made major changes up to now, I put aside a copy of the grammar. But thanks for reminding me again ;) You never know ... Hehe, pretending that it's always been that way ... why not? I've already thought of something like that.
>> I've taken a couple languages and totally changed every aspect of
them just keeping the name, the orthography, maybe the basic phonemes, etc., but I always make sure to keep a copy of the old one, just in case--and just for personal historical reasons. << You can also reuse what you have done as an inspiration or so for a new project. Or maybe for creating a distant relative. Or in case you have a conworld, you could simply say that a similar system compared to your now changed conlang has appeared in another corner of the world. After all, Europe is not the only place where e.g. accusative lanugages developed, I think. I don't know what I'll do with Ayeri. Maybe I'd first declare that the current version is "Old Ayeri", then apply some carefully (!!) chosen sound changes so that Ayeri's sound is somewhere in the near of the changes I'd like to make, work on the grammar and rearrange some of the vocabulary as for the change of meaning etc. and declare the result to be "Modern Ayeri". I guess there are lots of things changing during -- say -- 1500 years, having a look into my parents' ethymologic dictionary. Old High German seems to sound quite nice, BTW. From: "Roger Mills" <rfmilly@...> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Problems with Ayeri
> It is remarkable, isn't it, how almost all natlangs do manage to sound
nice. Indeed it is! Cheers, Carsten