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Re: THEORY: Verb voice

From:R. Nierse <rnierse@...>
Date:Monday, May 3, 1999, 7:20
I don''t know for sure if the example I've encountered really is a voice. I
haven't found it in other natlangs or conlangs, it is called 'Non-control'
and I found in Sechelt (Salishan):
k0u-St-la-waL-L@m-n@x-am  'now we have forgotten it (and there was nothing
we could do about it)'.
IRR-1PL-now-forget-NON_CNTRL-1PL

pronunciation:
k0  = labialized k
S   = as in English 'sh'
L   = as in welsh 'll'
x   = as in German 'ich'

The -n@x- indicates that the actor has no control over the action. I was
very much intrigued by this suffix at the time I studied the language. Are
there any others that have examples of 'non-control'?


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> Van: Tom Wier <artabanos@...> > Aan: Multiple recipients of list CONLANG <CONLANG@...> > Onderwerp: THEORY: Verb voice > Datum: zondag 2 mei 1999 5:32 > > I was just wondering something: exactly how many possible > verbal voices are there? Off hand I can think of about four: > active, passive, middle (action redounds back onto oneself, > for one's own benefit; indirect), and reflexive (action was > intended to affect oneself directly). What others could > there be? > > ======================================================= > Tom Wier <artabanos@...> > ICQ#: 4315704 AIM: Deuterotom > Website: <http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/> > "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." > > Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and > oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil > spirits at the dawn of day. - Thomas Jefferson > ========================================================