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Re: Germanic and Celtic (was Re: Verb-second ... verb-penultimate languages?)

From:Michael Adams <michael.adams1@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 26, 2006, 12:53
>From what I have read, the Celtic language groups, is closer to
the Italic and Hellenistic langages.. Sort of a Branch of the Indo-European and related Indo-Iranian and like. Mike Address changing to Abrigon@gci.net or Abrigon@gmail.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Poetry-L2/ My Poetry List http://groups.google.com/group/adulthumor-l/ My Humor List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/abrigon-l2 My Friends List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stargruntsooc Grunts Past/Present/Future http://groups.yahoo.com/group/abrigon-world Magic or Super High Tech http://groups.yahoo.com/group/future-history-l Where we are going as a species ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Johansson" <andjo@...> To: <CONLANG@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:36 AM Subject: Re: Germanic and Celtic (was Re: Verb-second ... verb-penultimate languages?)
> Quoting R A Brown <ray@...>: > > > Jörg Rhiemeier wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > What do you mean by "they"? If you mean Continental
Celtic, it is
> > generally > > > accepted that they are the closest kin of Insular Celtic;
I don't know why
> > > Ray always puts "Celtic" in quotes. > > > > Not always, but often :) > > > > I know this is controversial, and there was a thread about
this some
> > time back so I do not want to stir things up, but only to
answer Jörg's
> > query. > > > > None of the ancient authors ever refers to any of the
inhabitants of
> > Britain & Ireland as Celts. Indeed, no one referred to
anyone in these
> > islands as Celtic until the 18th century. Since then,
however, the term
> > has acquired overlays of all sorts mythic and political
connotations
> > that are unwarranted, so some of us are not entirely
comfortable with
> > this blanket term. > > This would seem somewhat besides the point - the question
isn't whether the
> *name* "Celtic" is appropriate, but whether the grouping so
designated is a
> natural one. Do we know enough of ancient Gaulish,
Celtiberian, and allies to
> confidently assert that these languages are more closely
related to what's
> popularly known as Insular Celtic than either is to Italic or
Germanic?
> > Andreas