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Re: IPA (Was: Re: Hello, I'm new too)

From:jesse stephen bangs <jaspax@...>
Date:Monday, October 23, 2000, 20:50
> Remember that IPA is not meant to represent every *possible* distinction, > but only every *necessary* distinction in existent languages. For example, > [j] represents both the approximant of English "yes" and the fricative > of (some kinds of) Spanish "yo", because no known language makes a phonemic > distinction between these sounds. If one were found, a new symbol would > be introduced into IPA.
Huh? I've always thought that the curly-tailed [z] was the correct IPA symbol for the Spanish sound. It's a voiced palatal fricative, just barely different from the voiced palatal approximant [j]. I care because my conlang has a phonemic difference between them! Any more info on this?
> > -- > John Cowan cowan@ccil.org > One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore > --Douglas Hofstadter >
Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu "It is of the new things that men tire--of fashions and proposals and improvements and change. It is the old things that startle and intoxicate. It is the old things that are young." -G.K. Chesterton _The Napoleon of Notting Hill_