Re: [vIlkesalo] thanks you

>From: John Cowan <cowan@...>
>On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Nik Taylor wrote:
>
> > John Cowan wrote:
> > > ['vIlkESalo] is perhaps the closest rendering.
> >
> > I assume that the [S] is a typo for [s]?
>
>Not.  Finnish "s", like Bengali "s", is closer to [S]; there is no
>phonemic /S/ in Finnish (except in a few loanwords).
>
> >  That's pretty close to how I'd
> > pronounce it, except I'd probably use a [@] for the second vowel, and
> > have a secondary stress on the third syllable.
>
>Fair enough.  Finnish "a" isn't far from [@], whereas "aa" is distinctly
>[a:].
Uh oh. I really would like to be familiar with those marks of yours now. But
one thing is sure: there should be no other difference between 'a' and 'aa'
(same with other vowels) than the length of the vowel. I'd demonstrate the
difference this way: if Finnish 'a' is one and 'aa' two, a Spanish 'a' on
the stressed syllable is one and a half.

Hey, many of you certainly know good resources in the web where I could
check what those marks mean exactly and even learn more. Could you recommend
me some of them?

Tero

>--
>John Cowan                                   cowan@ccil.org
>One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore
>         --Douglas Hofstadter
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