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Re: OT: "Claw" (was "I'm new at this")

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Sunday, November 24, 2002, 9:26
On Sunday 24 November 2002 2:51 am, you wrote:
> Replying to Christophe: > > All right, we've got to get this straight, because the pronunciation which > you're saying is normal, I would claim could never exist in any dialect of > English in any part of the world ever. Let me make sure we're not getting > any wires crossed here: > > 1.) First, we're talking about the word "claw", which is usually the paw of > an animal which has with sharp nails. > > 2.) [A] is a low, back, unrounded vowel, and [aw] is a front, low, > unrounded vowel followed by a labio-velar glide (or some sort of high, > back, rounded coda), forming a diphthong. > 3.) The word "clod" has [A] ([k_h5A:d]), and the word "cloud" has [aw] > ([k_h5aw:d]). > 4.) The word "clawed" is identical to the word "clod" in pronunciation, and > NOT "cloud". > 5.) The only other pronunciation of "claw" is [k_h5O], where [O] is an > open-mid, back, rounded vowel. > > Those are the five main possible sticking points that I foresee. If those > all hold up, though, and we're not getting any wires cross, then where have > you heard this pronunciation? I'd be curious to know, and to see what > other variations exist in that dialect. >
My main problem is that 'aa', IMHI(In My Humble Idiolect) is taken up by /A/. If he meant /A/, then 'father' would probably be a better example, as everyone's dialect has that.

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Michael Martin <mdmartinmm@...>