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Re: Click consonants

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Saturday, December 13, 2003, 16:03
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:21:32 -0600, Eddy Ohlms <etg@...>
wrote:

>They must be mentioned explicitly. The difference between k! and g!, for example, >is phonemic. To not mention the accompaniments would be like not mentioning the >different the other consonants other than points of articulation and airstream >mechanism, which is all you'll get if you leave out the accompaniment.
Cán be phonemic. I don't think we have enough examples of click languages to generalize that the distinction between k! and g! múst be phonemic in any language with clicks. There certainly are examples of languages that don't distinguish between voiced and voiceless stops, but those languages don't have clicks. Just because an example of a particular language feature isn't known doesn't mean that it's humanly impossible (a general problem with so-called "language universals"). And even though Qiira Triicha isn't intended as a human language, I don't think that it'd be unnatural for a human language to lack a distinction between voiced and voiceless click accompaniments if it also fails to distinguish between voiced and voiceless stops in general. If the difference isn't phonemic in a particular language, it might be nice to specify whether the accompaniment is voiced or voiceless, velar or uvular, aspirated or unaspirated, in free variation, etc., but that's a matter of how much detail the author wants to put into the phonological description. Some languages distinguish between [t_d] (dental), [t_-] (alveolar), and [t`] (retroflex), but that doesn't mean that you need to specify whether your language's /t/ is dental or alveolar if the difference isn't phonemic. -- languages of Azir------> ---<http://www.io.com/~hmiller/lang/index.html>--- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any @io.com email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin

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