Re: English [dZ]

Jean-François Colson wrote:

> > >In "long u" (cute). In reflex of /ew/ (new).
> > > My non-native dialect still keeps those two distinct (the former is
> > /ju:/ or /u:/ while the latter is /jy/ or /y:/), [...]
>
>What? Are there really dialects of English with a high front rounded
>vowel? Where? And which words are concerned?
Sorry - I meant "accent". That word somehow completely escaped my mind when
writing the previous message - hence the contrived expression "non-native
dialect". :D Oh, and I'm located in Finland.

Anyway, practically everyone here pronounces "New York" as /ny: jo:k/ or
some variation thereof. The fronting applies widely to word-final /ju:/, and
some people (like me) extend this to various other environments - at its
worst, to all non-initial positions. The /y:/ in question tends to be a [y:]
proper only in the speech of people with little to none English fluency. Eg.
I pronounce "few new clues" as something like [fHu\ n_jHu\ k_hlHu\s] and
definitely not [fy: ny: kly:s]

I could dig deeper into the stereotypical Finnish pronounciation of English,
but I guess you may have lost your interest already.

John Vertical

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