Re: Alborgian/ Borgi
|From:||John Vertical <johnvertical@...>|
|Date:||Friday, May 30, 2008, 20:25|
Getting back from the labial vs. lateral track: since there is no emphatic
'b' or 'm' or 'f', is there any way to spell an "emphatic-colored" vowel
after a labial, say, /ma/? Do these combinations even occur?
Alborgian is looking pretty cool in general so far, BTW.
On Wed, 28 May 2008 21:18:56 -0500, Eric Christopherson wrote:
>On May 28, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Tristan McLeay wrote:
>> The place of articulation
>> with "-ised" means that a central (i.e. non-lateral) approximate is
>> made in this area. It depends on the native language whether it begins
>> before, concurrently with, or after the lateral approximate.
>Interesting! I never knew there was much leeway there.
And this makes me realize, it's possible to contrast [lM\)] with [lL\)].
Something to remember when fine-tuning sound change pathways, I suppose. The
2nd should probably be called a dubbelarticulated corono-velar lateral (I
say "corono" because I seem to remember that for more than one language with
an /l 5/ contrast, the contact point is alveolar for /l/ but dental for /5/,
or vice versa.)
>Does anyone know exactly how to characterize their /l/?
An apico-alveolar lateral approximant [l_a] in most environments.
Lamino-alveolar [l_m] adjacent to /j i y/, as well as optionally when
geminate; apical postdental [l_+] when adjacent to /t/. If both conditions
apply, it is the folloing segment that determines the articulation (altho I
can not think of any instances of -tli- in my actual vocabulary, so take
that with a pinch of salt)
Probably not what you asked for, but there you have it anyway ;) And an
interesting excercize to work out, something to remember for that
future-dialect-of-Finnish project maybe