Re: Tsuhon: tentative phonology

Hi!

Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...> writes:
>
> hm.. [vU"ni:46%e:Stra:kOUs] could be an example then, to take from yours
> =)
>
> > Vanishing /n/ I've heard in endings in /@n/ or /6n/, but never in Vn,
> > with V != @ and 6.
>
> What's happening in the example I gave then?
It's no High German, but heavy dialect.  I would have problems
understanding that. :-)  Anything can happen in dialects, but
I would not label it High German then.

> Might that just simply be due
> to Niederoesterreich starting with [n]?
Probably a contraction then, yes.  *That* happens in my pronunciation,
too.  Probably due to the absence of geminates that have to be
pronunced like a single consonant: [vOni:d62:st6RaICaUs].  But I would
analyse that both syllables share the [n].

> > And finally, initial /v/ I find *very* strange and don't think I can
> > remember to have heard that.  But Yoon Ha also said she'd encountered
> > that.  Maybe I simply do not notice, because the brain reconstructs
> > an /f/ phoneme immediately. :-)  Who knows.
>
> two to one, we win ;)
Ok. :-)

> Seriously tho, I'm not sure what to think. I'd put money on it that I've
> heard voicing in the 'v' when the preceding sound is voiced; otoh it might
> just be quite fortis voiceless.
Was it in what I'd harshly label dialect and, therefore, would not let
count? :-)

Really, I have no scientific data about this.  It was all just my
feeling.  But a strong feeling, of course.

**Henrik

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