Re: Tsuhon: tentative phonology

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Henrik Theiling wrote:

Gosh; *late* reply.  I'm so out of it these days.  <grimace>

> Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...> writes:
> > The other thing I was thinking was maybe just use series of vowels.
>
> I use that system to foreign names in Tyl-Sjok, too.  Linked with 'h'.
> (Korean uses that nowadays, too, right?  Instead of doing /aI/ > /}/)
<scratching head>  Well, /ai/ (with the vowels more separate than glided)
means "child," but I can't think offhand of "h" linking examples.  You're
probably right, though.  I haven't been in Korea for half a year now.

> > > I don't know how likely these are, but in Korean loan words, at least
> > > one is common: Taiwan > tae-man.
> >
> > Korean loan words?  <puzzled meep>
>
> Hmm?  <copying style><puzzled look>
Words loaned from Korean, or words loaned into Korean?  <bonking head>
And now I can't remember...<checking English-Korean dictionary which was
a Christmas gift from Mom>

My dictionary gives both t'aiwan and daeman (in the slightly earlier
transcription, taeman).  I confess I only remember hearing the first, not
the second, which is why I was confused.  Sorry.  (Maybe it's the
influence of all those Americans runnin' around Seoul.  <G>)

> > German to Tsuhon, I was wondering if I should use any particular
> > form--plural sounded attractive just to get rid of gender (which I don't
> > want to keep).
>
> No gender. :-(  This lovely way of confusing people.
<rueful look>  I want mainly-Japanese grammar for this...trying to port
gender into that would be messy.

> And no adjective mood (is that the right word?) I suppose?
>
> By mood, I mean the following distinction in level of definedness
> by which adjective endings are (also) selected in German:
>
>            Nominative            Dative
> level 0:   der   groß-e  Stein   dem   groß-en Stein
> level 1:   ein   groß-er Stein   einem groß-en Stein
> level 2:   manch groß-er Stein   manch groß-em Stein
<blink>  I was never taught level 2.  I thought all the things like
"jeder, solche," etc. either declined like der or like ein.  Hmm....

YHL

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