Re: "Essiness, Ishiness, Veeiness, Aitchiness & /X/" (was: none)

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# On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, M.E.S. wrote:
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# > Highly agree with Kou about the "mind-numbing" effect
# > of the beautiful Portuguese ishiness (but, AFAIK, that
# > ishiness is from Brazilian P and less common in
# > Portugal - can anyone confirm?).
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The izh and ish /S/, /Z/, are definitely Portugal Portuguese,
as well as of Rio de Janeiro.  Typically [s] and [z] become
[S] and [Z] syllable finally/word finally.

This, along with other diferences were enough that I (who learned
portugese from a woman from Fortaleza) could not understand a thing
while I was in Portugal.

-tim

http://www.zece.com/conlang/