Re: war and death are in my hand

At 8:46 pm +1200 12/6/01, andrew wrote:
>Am 06/10 20:57  Sally Caves yscrifef:
>
>> See!  I from Hell's sisterhood [am],
>> And War and Death in my grip.
>>
>> {and swords and warriors in my iron womb)
>>
>In Brithenig:
>
>Ech!  Eo di gomyndad Iffern,
>E lla Wer e'll Morth i mew bruis.
>
>E llo 'spad e llo filid i mew fadreg di ffer.
>
>Ech!  Eo    di   gomyndad  Iffern,
>See   I.nom from community Hell
[snip]

>I was surprised to discover that no Romance language has preserved
>sororitatem in this context, at least, in no dictionary I looked up.
But that, surely, is because there was no _sororitate(m)_ to preserve!

It may be that _sororitas_ is found in medieval Latin, but it ain't found
in Classical Latin was not part of Vulgar Latin.  Even _fraternitas_ is
pretty rare and found only in the late Classical period.

>  I
>followed their guidance and used communitatem, which means a (religious)
>community.  French appears to use communalitatem.  I decided against
>congregationem.  It just didn't seem right to me.
Nor IMO is _communitatem_ - it has no feminine associations, nor were
Furies a religious community as we understand the term.

The original is quite clear: dirarum ab sede sororum (from the abode of the
fearsome sisters); and _sororum_ is pretty emphatic here.  After all,
Turnus has just mocked her and told her to leave war to _men_ (uiri),
'cause women don't understand it.

Ray.

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