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Re: CHAT : Origin of the name "Northumbria"

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Sunday, November 28, 2004, 0:05
Rodlox wrote:

>----- Original Message ----- >From: Joe <joe@...> >To: <CONLANG@...> >Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:03 AM >Subject: Re: CHAT : Origin of the name "Northumbria" > > > > >>Andreas Johansson wrote: >> >> >> >>>Quoting Joe <joe@...>: >>> >>> > > > > >>>>No, it does originate from that. I think that Southumbria was found in >>>>some texts, actually. It comes from 'Norþhymber', I believe, which has >>>>a pretty transparent origin. >>>> >>>> > > > >>>Not from _what_, but from _where_; I'm not interested in the etymology, >>> >>> >but > > >>>_where_ the name was coined, specifically whether in Northumbria itself >>> >>> >or > > >>>somewhere south of the Humber. >>> >>> > > > >>Ah, right. Well, either possibility seems likely to me. Because >>Northumbria was the union of two kingdoms (Bernicia and Deira), it is >>possible it was a name coined for the new entity by the Northumbrians - >>called so because it now contained all the lands north of the Humber. >> >> > > I always thought it was pronounced "north-umbria"...didn't know about the >Humber. > > so, it's actually "nort-humbria" then? > >
No, it's pronounced as expected. The /h/ just got absorbed into the /T/.

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Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>