Re: Will
From: | Gerald Koenig <jlk@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, April 18, 2000, 7:14 |
>Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000417202710.00b37220@...>
>Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:34:15 +0200
>From: BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
>Subject: Re: Will
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>At 01:08 17.4.2000 -0500, Patrick Dunn wrote:
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>> > Historically, "will" represented simple futurity, whereas "shall" had
>> > overtones of intention, command, suggestion, or what not, *except* in
>> > the 1st person where the pattern was reversed.
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>>How ever did this queer pattern evolve? I've never understood it.
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>>And, of course, "shall" is often used in all persons to emphsize intent or
>>constraint. "The undersigned shall blah blah blah"
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>I would tend to use only _will_ for futurity, and _shall_ in the
>intent/constraint sense. This clearly is influenced by the fact that I'm
>Swedish: in Swedish _skall_ normally covers both functions, but to express
In the Vector tense system of of Nilenga I completely separated time
(tense) from intent (modality). They are completely mixed up, blended,
in English. So one can say in VTT (vector time tense) , ie,
I (future) dance. [dance is a stem verb]
I (want) (future) dance.
I want to-dance. [the infinitive suffix/infixed verb form covers all
time frames, it could be interpreted as future in context]
You (future) (imperative) blah-verb.
Most of the tense and modal particles form contractions, for example,
"I future.." is mi + fu = mif.
"I want future.." is mi+di +fu = mid fu. mi dif is also possible.
"You must future.. " is vu+xa+fu= vu xaf | vux fu.
There is a mini-essay on mode/tense among the old vector tense posts. I
had them online, and they will return as soon as I get a new ftp site.
They are still up in the deja news archives of
alt.language.artificial.ngl
Jerry
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