Re: Rhys Ifans! Welsh fans, another pronunciation pop question

Hi!

Rene Uittenbogaard <ruittenb@...> writes:
> Steg Belsky wrote:
>...
>  > That's how we pronounce the New York place-name "Spuyten Duyvil", the
>  > historical figure (and neighborhood and school named after him)
>  > Stuyvesant, and i'm sure other names that i can't think of at the
>  > moment.
>
> In Dutch it is pronounced as [9y], so Kluivert ['kl9yv@rt]
>
> René Uittenbogaard [,9ytEn'boXart]
Really with [X] and [r]?  Were are you from?  My limited knowledge of
Dutch dialects does not cover a variant with [X] (instead of [x])
together with [r] (instead of [R]). :-)

Also, I'm only familiar with [8Y] and [@Y] for |ui|, but as I said, I
have had limited exposure to Dutch.

The [v] in |Kluivert| (instead of [v_0]) suggests a southern, maybe
Belgian dialect, is that right?  However, you once wrote you were from
the Netherlands, so I'll exclude Vlaams for that reason.  I once knew
a chap from North Brabant, but he used [R] (and even [X]) for /r/, not
[r].  Also, he used [x], not [X] for /x/.

A bit puzzled,
   Henrik

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