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Re: USAGE: "gotten" (was: Latin) verb examples and tense meanings

From:Padraic Brown <pbrown@...>
Date:Thursday, January 20, 2000, 22:28
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Ed Heil wrote:

>I'm wondering whether there is a sense distinction between "I have >money" and "I've got money" now. My intuitive impression is that the >former is somewhat more marked and emphatic than the latter, but >that's a very vague impression. Maybe the former is a bit more formal >than the latter too.
For me: I have money = I have a quantity of money that is not here [He has money = he is filthy rich] I've got money = I have a quantity of currency on me at the moment The former generally points to wealth (especially when used in the third person), or else that the money one has is not currently at the same location as ones self. While the latter would indicate a relatively small sum of money, but one that is about ones person now. Padraic.
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