Re: CHAT: affricates/grammar help/intransitivity/free word order

Quoting "Pascal A. Kramm" <pkramm@...>:

> >German has the labiodental affricate [pf]
>
> Yes, but only in the middle of the word or at the end. Word-initial it is
> "f".
Many varieties, yes. Duden German, no.

> >and German dialects have an
> >affricate usually analyzed as [kx], but which could also be described as
> >[qX]. For what I know, both are very unusual sounds, that is, there are very
> >few natlangs that feature them.
>
> Haven't ever heard it in any dialects I've witnessed... must be really rare
> then.
Nah. Just Swiss.


Let's what more I can think of. Swedish 'tj', now [s\] or [S] in standard-like
varieties, supposedly used to be [ts\] or [cC] - the later, IIRC, also occures
in Indic langs along with [J\j\]. Magyar's got them too. Mandarin has a
retroflex affricate 'zh' [t`s`]. They've also got the aspirated version 'ch'
[t`s`_h] - of course, other africates can also be aspirated. Indeed, Mandarin
also has 'c' [ts_h] and 'q', which I've seen veriously transcribed as [tS_h],
[ts\_h] and [tC_h].

Would a glottal affricate [?h] be possible?

                                                      Andreas