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Re: Words for relationships that don't have good analogues in English

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Saturday, October 20, 2007, 1:50
Tim Smith wrote:

> As you've no doubt gathered by now, this conculture is much more > sex-positive than our culture, and I want the language to reflect that > by having a rich vocabulary of sexual relationship terms. But it's also > more (for want of a better term) "relationship-positive" in general, and > I want the language to have a richly nuanced vocabulary for describing > all kinds of relationships, not just sexual ones. However, > vocabulary-building has never been one of my strong points as a > conlanger. My usual tendency is to get obsessed with the grammar and > totally neglect the lexicon, so I end up with a detailed abstract > skeleton of a language in which I can't really say much of anything. I'm > trying to avoid that tendency with this project; we'll see.
I could use some of these ideas for the Zireen languages, if I ever get around to filling in their vocabulary. Zireen similarly have a distinct lack of negative attitudes concerning sex, and in general they're very social. They also have many different sorts of relationships of both sexual and non-sexual kinds -- what we might call romantic or "falling in love" relationships are not inherently associated with sex. You could have a romantic relationship with a tree or a river and it wouldn't be viewed as more than a little eccentric. But so far all I have is a tiny vocabulary for Zireen sexual relationships in Yasaro, and these don't go across well in English: ruké [z`u_R.ki], jáđi [j\a_F.n_di], and thíla [t_di_F.la]. The typical adult Yasaro speaker of breeding age has one ruké and one jáđi. Both could be translated "husband" or "wife", and both are long-term stable relationships. One prototypical Yasaro family includes two pairs of ruké in a jáđi relationship with each other. I.e. M - jáđi - F | | ruké ruké | | F - jáđi - M Thíla is a long-term relationship of a more auxiliary nature, and it's not uncommon to have more than one of them; they often take the place of a ruké or jáđi in their absence. Of course, many other stable family arrangements are possible, and there's a whole range of more casual or temporary relationships, which can get rather complicated, but I haven't really thought much about them.

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