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Re: Re : Re: Re : Case, Innateness, Almost Allnoun, NGL.

From:grandsir <grandsir@...>
Date:Monday, August 9, 1999, 6:14
Nik Taylor wrote:
> > grandsir wrote: > > Is that derivation? > > Yeah, it's a special kind of derivation, called zero-derivation. > There's actually evidence that that is a real process, and not a > linguist's fiction. In cases of anominal aphasia (the loss of nouns), > nouns like "comb" are lost, while the verb "comb" is retained, > suggesting that they are genuinely stored as separate items in the > brain. > > > fokezif: person who > > has a certain title (difficult to translate, I know). > > A titled person.
Well, yes and no. Moten has such words (not many, but some) that you can't use on their own like this. The use of "fokezif" is as follows: If you refer to a person first using his/her title (President, Captain, Boss, etc...), you'll refer to him/her then not using his/her title again, but using the word "fokezif". In the same way, you have the word "zi|sun" for measure units (with the difference that this word can be used also to mean "degree"). So as you see, the translation "a titled person" doesn't fit here, as the title must already be known.
> > -- > "[H]e axed after eggys: And the goode wyf answerde, that she coude not > speke no Frenshe ... And then at last a nother sayd that he woulde haue > hadde eyren: then the goode wyf sayd that she vnderstood hym wel." -- > William Caxton > http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Conlang/W.html > http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Books.html > ICQ: 18656696 > AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor
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