Re: Carthage?
| From: | Pascal A. Kramm <pkramm@...> |
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| Date: | Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 22:27 |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:13:05 +0100, Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:03:25 +0200, Rodlox <rodlox@...> wrote:
>> > Quoting "Pascal A. Kramm" <pkramm@...>:
>> > > Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam est.
I didn't remember it 100% accurate, it's actually:
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam!
I found a German Wikipedia entry for it (no entry in the English one):
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceterum_censeo
Cato the Elder used it after each of his speeches right before the third
punic war.
>> (don't know that one) (censor?) (Carthage) (destroyed) (must)
>>
>> yes?
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>There are various translations around; I'm not sure whether there's a
>standard English one. "And therefore I believe that Carthage must be
>destroyed" seems a compromise of some versions I found in a quick
>google.
Actually, it's :
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam!
(besides, by the way) (I mean, I am of the opinion that) (Carthage) (is to
be destroyed)
--
Pascal A. Kramm, author of Choton
official Choton homepage:
http://www.choton.org
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