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Re: LW again -- Noun and verb

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Thursday, August 29, 2002, 12:48
>From: "Thomas R. Wier" <trwier@...> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU >Subject: Re: LW again -- Noun and verb >Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:21:33 -0500 > >Quoting Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>: > > > >From: "Thomas R. Wier" <trwier@...> > > >Quoting Mau Rauszer <maurauser@...>: > > > > > > > Zesefde Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...> ta 2002.08.27. her > > >13:31:57 > > > > -5h: > > > > > > > > > Quoting Mau Rauszer <maurauser@...>: > > > > > > Aspects: Habitual - Continous > > > > > > > > > > These aspects usually pattern together in languages. A more > > > > > common split is perfective / imperfective. > > > > Yeah but there they are different. > > > > > >How? > > > > I can't fail to notice that you did not point out that distinguishing > > habitual vs continual but not perfective vs imperfective is unusual in >your > > otherwise lengthy reply to my initial post on Yargish. Is there anything > > particular in Yargish that makes this state of affairs less surprising? > >There is? Somehow I missed that. But, without looking >at any particular use of Yargish, I'd have to say the >same thing.
I'll just quote the entire verb section from my original post on Yargish. As you've previously noted, the "present" tense is rather a non-past one. " VERBS The Yargish verb has two tenses, present and past, and three aspects, punctual, continuative and habitual. The forms are examplified by the verb _khak_ "kill" below: - present past - pun khak khakuz - con khak-id khakuz-id - hab khak-ur khakuz-ur The future is handled by the present form plus an adverbial signifying "tomorrow" or "next year" or whatever. The punctual aspect indicates an eventive, more or less instantaneous action. Therefore is rarely used as a true present - the present punctual is most commonly found in future constructions. The past punctual roughly corresponds to the English simple past and perfect. The continuative aspect indicates and ongoing or repeated action. It's quite similar to the English "is -ing" and "was -ing" forms. The habitual aspect refers to actions that are regularly reoccuring, and to states. The past habitual refers to actions that used to be regularly reoccuring, and to former states. Theoretically, any verb can occur in any of the six tense-aspect combinations, altho' you rarely need the habitual of "to die" or the punctual of "to sleep". " Andreas _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: