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Re: OFF-TOPIC: Misspoken... Sort Of

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 7:48
> Paul Bennett scripsit: > > > FWIW, IME, /zn/ > /dn/ only occurs in AAVE in North Carolina, not in > > General North Caronlinian. I think. I'll have to listen more carefully. > > Well, my wife doesn't speak AAVE, and although she grew up in NC, hasn't > lived there for over forty years (spent first in the Miami area and then > the New York area). So the trait may be old-fashioned.
(At the risk of YAEPT...) This change seems highly lexically restricted. It's also not true for the whole South. There's a lengthy isogloss running much of the length of the South separating the regions close to the East Coast from those not (not exactly a Tidewater~ Piedmont distinction). In the regions closer to the sea, the "weren't" "won't" and "wasn't" all fall together as "won't", and people who say [w@dn=t] are deemed to have affected speech. Beyond this isogloss, people who collapse these terms are deemed to use "bad English"; we all know to speak proper you say [idn=t] etc. From: "Mark P. Line" <mark@...>
> I say "idn't", "wudn't" and "dudn't", but not "bidness". (In allegro, > it's "biness", otherwise "bizness".) > -- Mark (from NE Oklahoma, dialectologically speaking)
I get the impression that "bidness" is much more socially marked than the change in auxiliaries. I never heard it growing up in Houston, though most everyone spoke as you describe. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637