Re: [wEr\ Ar\ ju: fr6m] ?

At 8:25 AM +0100 11/07/01, Almaran Dungeonmaster wrote:
>Ok, here goes. Mind that I am not that well versed in phonetic spelling
>though...
>
>City: Krimpen aan den IJssel ['krImp@ an d@ 'Eis@l]
>Province: Zuid-Holland [s9yt'OlAnt]
>Country: Nederland ['ned@rlAnt]
>
>Nearby cities and towns: Rotterdam ['rOt@rdAm], Gouda ['GAuda],
>Schoonhoven ['sxo:nhof@]
Isn't there at least a secondary stress on -dam? I actually hear it
in my head as the primary stress in Rotterdam and Amsterdam ...

>Other nearby places: Capelle [ka'pEl@], Ouderkerk ['Aud@kErk],
>Kralingse Veer ['kralINs@ 'fIr]
Growing up, I heard these place names (and others) all the time. My
mother is from Amsterdam, and my father's family is Frisian, but many
of them settled in Zuid-Holland and Zeeland; his paternal grandmother
was from Utrecht.

This brings back fond memories of my childhood and the time I spent
as an exchange student in Tilburg.

Dirk
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Dirk Elzinga                              Dirk_Elzinga@byu.edu

"Speech is human, silence is divine, yet also brutish and dead;
therefore we must learn both arts."            - Thomas Carlyle

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