Re: [wEr\ Ar\ ju: fr6m] ? Am I right??
| From: | Tristan Alexander McLeay <anstouh@...> |
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| Date: | Saturday, November 10, 2001, 10:18 |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, SuomenkieliMaa wrote:
> > I'd say [str\AD@z], but I'm Aussie. And it
>
> Oh my!! First off, you are Aussie so I must apologize
> as I somehow thought you to be American :-L .
The general assumption of the Net: everyone's American. Don't worry, I'd
assumed you were Japanese for quite a while (although I have a better
excuse: you live in Japan).
> Secondly, thanks for SS's name - I suppose the only
> difference between your rendition and mine should be
> the final r. Ok, so when does one use _ ? And how is
> [D] from [T]? Also, I still that damn yen symbol
> before [A] but I'm clueless as to what it is.
No, my [A] isn't the same as an American one, which I think is [V] or [@].
(Actually, my [A] is more like [A_A] (advanced, [a]-ward of [A]) [D] is a
voiced [T], eth vs thorn (the vs thin). _ symbolises that what follows is
a diacritic, for example, _r means the vowel is raised, relative to the
'cardinal' position. \ is another diacritic. It's supposed to be a
backslash, but it seems you get it as the yen sign. r\ is an alveolar
approximate, I think. Turned r, at any rate. R\, on the other hand, is an
uvular trill, an small caps R.
> > [ou], the GA version
> > of my [8u], is [Qu], which is an allophone of [8u]
>
> Ooo, now I've got to think about this explanation.
> You mean to say that [8] is like the Scandinavian
> o/slash? I believe Christophe mentioned once that it
> is [2]... though I could be mistaken! What is GA
> version?
General American, what I hear on the telly. I'm not sure what
Scandinavian o-slash is, but [2] is an IPA o-slash, the front version of
[8] (or the rounded version of [e]).
> Aha, so [{] as in Anne's a. [A] represents father's
> a. So, what about [a]??
[a] is the front version of [A]. It'll be some dialects father-vowel, as
it's generally the first element in the diphthongs in 'high' and 'how'
(although not always, I, for example, have [h{u] for 'how').
> Sorry for the game of 20 questions!
Not a problem in the least.
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