Re: OT: sorta OT: cases: please help...
| From: | Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, December 7, 2001, 19:56 |
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:34:45 +0100, Lukasz Korczewski
<lucasso@...> wrote:
>And in such
>a weird language as Polish you use for example genitive to denote objects
in
>negative sentences:
>
> Ania bije Kasie~.
> Anne(nom.) beat Kate(acc.).
>
>but:
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> Ania nie bije Kasi.
> Anne(nom.) don't beat Kate(gen.).
Same in Russian, and most of the other Slavic langs.
Not so weird, if you consider the use of _de_ (resembling Gen. a lot) with
negations in French. (Christophe? I always make mistakes in French :( )
>You also use so called instrumental:
>
> Pisze~ ol~ówkiem.
> I write with a pencil(instr.)
>
>also with copula:
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> Jestem ol~ówkiem.
> I am a pencil.
Roman Jakobson, in a paper about the meanings of cases in Russian, compared
instrumental to 'secondary nominative' (I forget the actual term he
used, though).
AFAIK, Polish also uses Nom., e. g. after _to_ 'this (is)'.
Basilius
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