Re: OT: YAEPT: English low vowels (was briefly: Re: Y/N variants (< OT: English a...

Mark Reed wrote:

> > As to which vowel I have in "palm", the answer is "none of the above".
> >  For me, "all" words form a lexical set unto themselves:  All, awl,
> > ball, Bali, balm (doesn't rhyme with bomb), bawl, call, calm, caul,
> > Collie, doll, dolly, fall, folly, gall, golly, hall, holly, jolly,
> > Kali, lolly, mall, maul, Molly, Nall, pall, palm, Paul, Polly, qualm,
> > Raleigh, Rawls, solly, tall, trawl, vol, wall, y'all.
> >
A little adjustment for my sets:
1.These have /O/ [O]: All, awl, ball,  bawl, call, caul, fall, gall, hall,
mall, maul pall, Paul Rawls, tall, trawl, wall, y'all; add Saul. And
Raleigh, I think (at least most of the time)-- also walk, talk (no L of
course), balk , caulk, fault (yes L in those)


2. These have /a/ most likely [A] for me: bomb, Bali, collie, doll, dolly,
folly, golly, holly, jolly, Kali, lolly, Molly, Polly, solly (dim. of
Sol[omon]?), vol (as in U.Tenn?)

3. closer to /a/ than /O/ : balm, palm, qualm etc (see previous post re the
l+C cluster, which maybe should be specifically /-lm#/)

4. varies between /a/ and /O/: water (/a/ is native, /O/ acquired after
teasing by posh Easterners at prep school :-((((( )

Amazing the traffic that YAEPTs generate!!!! but it's fun.........

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