Re: USAGE: Pop, smearcase, kolaches

"Grandsire, C.A." wrote:
> For me, there are:
> break-fast: petit-de'jeuner
> lunch: de'jeuner
> dinner: diner
Interesting.  According to my etymological dictionary, both _de'jeuner_
and _diner_ come from Latin _disju:na:re_, "breakfast", from
_je:ju:nus_, "fasting, hungry".  So, for you, _diner_ is always the last
meal of the day?

_disju:na:re_ became _desiuner_ > _de'jeuner_, but it also became
_disner_ > _diner_.  Don't know why it split up, my etymological
dictionary doesn't explain that.

> I also sometimes take a snack around 4 pm, it is called "gou^ter"
Interesting, a special word for a snack?

> The other dialect, which is for me a little old, because generally only
> old people talk like that, has:
> breakfast: de'jeuner
> lunch: diner
> dinner: souper (gave the word "supper")
>
>         I think my way of designating the different meals is recent (maybe two
> generations) and derived from the older one. Funny, when I was little I
> thought that "souper" was a special meal after dinner, for people still
> up around 10 pm that were still awake. They generally then took a soup
> ("soupe" in French), hence the name.
Supper comes from Old French _super_, "eat one's evening meal", which
comes from the Germanic base *sup-, which also produced English sip,
sop, and sup, and Latin *_supa:re_, to soak, source of "soup", so the
two are related.

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