Re: Poijpohloneny

On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:04:05 -0400, Jonathan Andrew Beagley
<jbeagley@...> wrote:

>Jeff Jones wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:58:13 -0400, Jonathan Andrew Beagley
>><jbeagley@...> wrote:
>>
>>>I wrote this poem in my language, Hloneno.
>>>
>>>Tayone, la ruvy to ev?
>>>Sva la to redady!
>>>Nu, to la topoko!
>>>Vali, to cvojeji juvepolu
>>>Vlin to alace jvoinas,
>>>Tayothunovyne!
>>>Vlin carymon sva lujetam
>>>Jtu to sva la ruvy.
>>>
>>>Oh rabbit, are you brown?
>>>You are not slow!
>>>Nay, you are the opposite!
>>>Alas, you may die in time,
>>>And you will be missed,
>>>Oh dear rabbit!
>>>And persons will not know
>>>That you are not brown.
>>
>>Hi Jonathan
>>
>>I don't have the vocabulary to translate right now, but
>>let's see if I can figure out what's what.
>>
>>-ne -- Vocative
>>to -- 2nd person (singular ?)
>
>Yes, to is the 2nd person singular pronoun. The 2nd person plural is uvon.
>
>>la -- copula
>>
>Hm... I'm not quite sure what a copula is, but I think from what I've
>read "to be" in English is the copula, but not in all circumstances,
>such as in the sentence, "The book is on the table."
Pretty much so, as I understand it. Maybe "The book is new" or "This is a
new book" might be more central to the idea < looks over shoulder for
experts ?>.

>>ev -- question particle
>>sva -- negation particle
>>Vlin -- and
>
>Yes, "vlin" is "and" but only when used as a co-ordinating conjunction.
That sounds like a good idea.

>>Tayo -- rabbit
>>thunovy -- dear
>>ruvy -- brown
>>redady -- slow
>>Nu -- Nay
>>Vali -- Alas
>>lujetom -- know
>
>It's "lujetam", which is "to know" in the simple future tense.
Whoops! I forgot to account for the future (although some languages don't
use a distinct form). The "o" for "a" was a typo -- maybe a carryover from
my language 'Yemls where |o| and |a| are alternatives of the same vowel,
depending on what follows.

>>carymon -- person.plural
>>topoko -- opposite of (anaphoric)
>>
>>The other 4 words, I'd have to guess which is which. I notice that the
>>adjectives and in "y" here.
>>
>All the adjectives end in "y" (pronounced [ai]).
OK, so "y" has 2 pronunciations: [j] before a vowel, else [ai], or is it
always [ai]?
Oh, and I forgot before: the language is "Hloneno" and your subject header
was "Poijpohloneny" (which must be an adjective if I've understood).
Is "hlone" a morpheme common to both?

Jeff

>
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>Jonathan Beagley

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