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Re: Comparison of philosophical languages

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 22:14
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 11:32 am, Danny Wier wrote:
> From: "Isaac A. Penzev" <isaacp@...> > > > Mr. Nowicki, are you teachable? > > Pan napisal: > > > > <<"Milk," "mother," "is," and a few other words sound similar > > in all Indo-European languages. This seems to prove that > > names of basic ideas do not change.>> > > > > Stupidity! "Milk" is |lapte| in Romanian, |pienas| in Lithuanian, |galá| > > in > > > Ancient Greek, |thut| in Romani -- what other proof ye seek? And common > > origin of Ukrainian |je| and Lathvian |ir| (both mean "is") can be > > evident only to a specialist! > > Interesting story behind the word "milk". The Indo-European root is *melg-, > but if you believe in the Glottalic Theory, it's *melk'-. Russian |moloko| > is an obvious cognate with English (but may be a loan from Germanic). Greek > > |amelgô| and Latin MULGERE mean "to milk", and Tocharian A had |malke| for > > "milk". > > But similar words can be found in a diverse array of languages (such as > Semitic *mlg, Arabic |malaja| "to suck (the breast)" and Quechua |malq'a| > "throat"). This has led Merritt Ruhlen, among others, to propose a common > ancestor for ALL the world's languages, a Proto-World in fact. He came up > with *maliq'a "to suck(le); nurse; breast" (q' being an ejective uvular, as > in Georgian). I don't like the methodology, it's too Greenbergian and > doesn't rely that strictly on regular sound correspondences. This word is > probably onomatopoeic anyway. A Nostratic origin is VERY likely, however -- > Bomhard and Kerns have the extended root *mal-iq'- "to draw (out), to suck > (out); to give suck, to suckle, to nurse", with cognates in Indo-European, > Afro-Asiatic, Finno-Ugric, Dravidian and Eskimo.
Yes, but the probability of it actually staying phonologically similar over 20,000 years or so is very low. I could draw an origin to this obsession with 'ma' as a feminine marker of some kind, which seems to be common to nearly all languages, and the obvious connection with breasts.


Danny Wier <dawier@...>Is "ma" Proto-World? (Re: Re: Comparison of philosophical languages)
Peter Bleackley <peter.bleackley@...>Is "ma" Proto-World? (Re: Re: Comparison of philosophical languages)