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Re: X-SAMPA confusion (sorry)

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Sunday, November 21, 2004, 11:14
Quoting "Adrian Morgan (aka Flesh-eating Dragon)" <dragon@...>:


> In addition, CXS allows the choice of (I think) three different > conventions for indicating stress. Like X-Sampa, it allows {'} for > primary stress and {,} for secondary stress, which is the system I > vastly prefer. It also allows {'} for primary stress and {"} for > secondary stress, which is a system that I hate and despise with great > passion. Fortunately, I don't have to use it.
Technically, {'} for primary stress and {,} for secondary is NOT valid X-SAMPA; it's supposed to be {"} and {%} (which convention I hate alot). The appostrophe, moreover, is assigned to indicate palatalization in X-SAMPA*. The most recent version of the CXS chart I've seen doesn't recognize {,} for secondary stress either, but I think it can fairly be called an established list convention by now. It's what I use, anyway. * X-SAMPA also allows for {_j} for palatalization, which is the only recognized way in CXS. However, in practice, {;} seems to be the most common way to indicate palatalization on the list. If CXS is supposed to codify usage, it ought recognize {;} and {,}. Andreas

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