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Re: death of Dr. James Cooke Brown, inventor of Loglan

From:Terrence Donnelly <pag000@...>
Date:Thursday, February 17, 2000, 15:37
It's sort of too bad that the copyright issue was never fully
resolved.  Klingon has the same problem vis a vis Paramount
Pictures, which claims to own every aspect of the language,
including, presumably, all texts produced in it.  The Klingon
Language Institute is a "authorized user", so things produced
under their auspices are OK, but no one has ever resolved the
status of other works.  Since I doubt anyone has the deep
pockets to challenge Paramount in court, I doubt the issue
will ever be resolved.

-- Terry

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At 04:49 PM 02/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Matt Pearson wrote: > >> For the uninitiated and midly curious: What, in a nutshell, are the >> differences of opinion between the Loglanists and the Lojbanists? > >Probably fewer and fewer. > >The original difference was about the public or proprietary >status of Loglan: the proto-Lojbanists wanted a language whose >word lists, production rules, and so on were in the public domain. >At that time, the official Loglan position was that everything >was copyright, even the individual words, and that nothing could >be published in (not about, *in*) the language without official >permission. > >To evade the arguments, the words were redesigned from scratch >in 1998, and the production rules rebuilt. Lojban is the >descendant of that effort. Since then, the groups have >not interacted very much, so further drift has occurred, but >relatively little. For the most part, the languages remain >mutual relexes of each other, though some words have changed their >lexical semantics. A bit of behind-the-scenes consultation has >led to some joint solutions to common language-design problems. > >Litigation settled that the word "Loglan" is not a valid U.S. >trademark, and may be applied to Lojban or anything else. >Lojbanists claim to be part of the Loglan Project and use >the term "Loglan" generically, whereas Loglanists typically >exclude Lojban from the term "Loglan". Many persons support >both efforts. > >Since then the copyright issue has receded, as the official >Loglanists have adopted a relaxed attitude. We now refer to >each other's web sites and so on. > >Also, Lojban has a better reference grammar. :-) > >-- > >Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan
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