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Re: new Klingon spelling

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Sunday, January 4, 2004, 13:18
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 07:00:33PM -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> I was debating a hawk a few months back on this very subject: he claimed > that the pron. [ajr&k] was a deliberate insult/dehumanization, like > "Jap" in WWII. This is some evidence against that.
Do you really *need* any evidence against that? It's just how many pronounce the name in English. Is it also an insult/dehumanization that we say ['Izrejl=] (and other variants) instead of [jeSrAel] for the name of a certain other country in that region? To me, it sounds pretentious/snobbish - and in many cases is incomprehensible - when, in the middle of normal unaccented idiomatic English, someone (<koff>Trebek</koff>) breaks into another language's phonology just to pronounce the name of a country where that language is spoken. I have the same reaction to [hA'wAj?i], which amounts to bragging that the speaker has actually visited that island paradise, unlike the boorish Ugly Mainlander listener who pronounces it without the glottal stop, tsk. -Mark

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