Re: Vocab 2.5

--- In conlang@y..., Aidan Grey <grey@F...> wrote:

 > This week's installment (a little late...sorry!)

So am I.  =P

I'm trying to send this as HTML in order to allow some formatting.
It would quickly become chaotic otherwise...  complain if it doesn't
work for you.  ;-)



 > topic: predicate adjectives

In Obrenje:  Use the predicative case.

In Jovian:  Use nominative case.  Predicate and subject are two
phrases, so mutation doesn't spread across the boundary if they're
juxtaposed.



 > 1. answer
 >      Her answer was too short.
 >      She answered at length.

Obrenje:

    Gwaj lizni mu jem kcime.
    /gwaj "lizni mM j@N"ksi:m/
    too  short  be:PST:3e  POS:3a  reply

    Note: Lizni is temporal shortness.  If the reply had been written,
          the spatial bajke would have been more appropriate.

    Dramwe kcimaw.
    /"dramw@ ksi"maw/
    long:ADV  answer:PST:3i

    Note: Again, the temporal dranje has the spatial counterpart
          tunke.

Jovian:

    Suun pfondire era nime longun.
    [sUmpfAn"di:r "e:r@ ni:m"blANg@n]
    POS:3s:n:NOMs  answer:INF  be:PST:3s  too   long:n:NOMs

    Pfondiva muodae longiduendi.
    [pfAn"di:v@ "mu@de ,lANgi"dyndi]
    Answer:PST:3s  much:f:OBLs  length:OBLs



 > 2. silence
 >      The silence was uncomfortable.

Obrenje:

    Che tamillu cussae.
    /h@ ta"millM hMs"sa:/
    PER:0:OBJ  NEG:comfort:PST:3e  silence

    Literally: "The silence discomforted one; one was discomforted
          by the silence."

Jovian:

    Silindsun era ungradun.
    /si"lindz@n "e:rUN"gra:d@n/
    silence:NOMs  be  uncomfortable:n:NOMs



 > 3. tune
 >      The tune he played was beautiful.
 >      He tuned his tuneable instrument.

Obrenje:

    Gol majer bi locu.
    /"gOl ma"jEr bi "lo:hM/
    be_beautiful:PST:3e  tune:d  REL:OBJ  play:PST:3i

    Kuraw i jem pylin.
    /kM"raw i j@m py"lin/
    tune:PST:3i  OBJ  POS:3a  guitar

    Note: I like the word kura-.  It means "balance; tune;
          mediate (between); pacify".

Jovian:

    Meoldija can caniva era puoger.
    [mEl"di:j@ kaN ka"ni:v"e:r@ "pu@g@r]
    melody:NOMs  REL:f:ACCs  play:PST:3s  be:PST:3s  beautiful:f:NOMs

    Tindiva suan lyran.
    [tin"di:v@ sUm"bly:r@n]



 > 4. camp
 >      Their camp was nearly invisible.
 >      They camped on the butte.

Obrenje:

    Mu jem zagwaja u kej takilse.
    /mM j@n za"gwa:ja M kej ta"kilS#/
    be:PST:3e  POS:3a  camp  PRE  towards  NEG:see:PSV:FUT:PTC

    Note: The future passive participle is used idiomatically with
          the meaning "-able".  Takilse "invisible" literally means
          "not going to be seen".

    Zagwaw u drye.
    /za"gwaw M dry:/
    camp:PST:3i  PRE  hill:d

Jovian:

    Suun caster era pae unuesivel.
    [sUN"gaSt@r "e:r@ paj Uny"zi:v@l]
    POS:3s:n:NOMs  camp:NOMs  be:PST:3s  nearly  invisible:n:NOMs



 > 5. blood
 >      Blood is red.

Obrenje:

    Qar mo ny gwal.
    /Nar mO ny gwal/
    red  be:3e  CAT  blood

Jovian:

    Soenge ix ruere.
    [saNg iS ry:r]
    blood:NOMs  be:3s  red:m:NOMs

    Note: The 3rd person singular of ere used to be *se so far, but
          it never felt very Jovian.  I've decided to let est evolve
          into ix [iS] now, under the influence of German "ist".



 > 6. lend
 >      She lends her time to anyone who asks.
 > 7. equal
 >      We get equal pay for our work.
 > 8. determination
 >      Her determination was impressive.
 > 9. anger
 >      His anger was frightening.
 > 10. name
 >      Their names are far too long.

I'll come to those eventually.  /:-P



-- Christian Thalmann

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