Re: CHAT: /sidR/ v [zOId@r\]

Cider's not really traditional in East Anglia; it's definitely a beer
region - and the accent is not remotely similar. This is a mistake made by
radio and TV producers and film-makers everywhere, so you're in good
company. Chief up is the lack of anything approaching postvocalic r. A very
forceful initial h is also distinctive as are interchange of /&/ and /e/.
"Aren't" is heavily used as a negative "That aren't right" for "that's not
right", and a notable feature is the lack of 3ps markers. "He say" not "he
says". There's a chap two or three miles away, however, who'll press and
return your apple juice for you ready for cider-making. He runs an organic
cider company and is doing very well on it!
Mike
Don't they drink the stuff in East Anglia, too?  New
> > England, home of the
> > American tradition, was settled mostly from there.
> >
>
> possibly . . . the accent's not too dissimilar either
> . . . !
>
> but e anglia's better known for its beer
>
> > I should also mention that I consider the
> > cold-pressed product, unclarified,
> > straight from the apple, with no fermentation or
> > "sophistication"
>
> > whatsoever, to be a remarkably fine thing.  Its
> > shelf life is short --
> > sometimes I have to dump it immediately after
> > buying, and 3 days is
> > about the limit before it commences to taste like
> > the smell of cheap
> > perfume, if you understand me.  But unlike almost
> > all other juices save
> > lemon/lime, it freezes remarkably well.  There is
> > nothing like last fall's
> > [saIdr\=] thawed out in the springtime and drunk
> > directly off its own ice.
> >
>
> so you call what we refer to as 'english apple juice'
> cider ? bizarre !
>
> bn
>
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