Re: CHAT: /sidR/ v [zOId@r\]

=?iso-8859-1?q?bnathyuw?= scripsit:

> well, in london, as in much of the non-west country
> uk, [sAIdV] is what teenagers drink before they
> graduate onto beer.
Good to know that.

Is it really [AI] and not [aI]?  Even [aI], who have no
other [a], use [aI] and not [AI].

> but there is of course still west country [zOId@r\] (
> was this what you were referring to john ?
Yes.  Leaving off the r was a mere oversight, but I hear
that diphthong as [UI] not [OI] -- though [OI] would be
the nearest standard equivalent.  (Semantically, of course,
I'm-a-Yank-what-do-I-know.)

> accent as heavily rhotic ). but i'm afraid i'm going
> to be a traitor to my country and prefer /sidR/ to
> scrumpy
Well, hey, I was only proposing it as an alternative to apple
starvation in Dutchistan.  (Sounds like a headline.)

Don't they drink the stuff in East Anglia, too?  New England, home of the
American tradition, was settled mostly from there.

I should also mention that I consider the cold-pressed product, unclarified,
straight from the apple, with no fermentation or "sophistication"
whatsoever, to be a remarkably fine thing.  Its shelf life is short --
sometimes I have to dump it immediately after buying, and 3 days is
about the limit before it commences to taste like the smell of cheap
perfume, if you understand me.  But unlike almost all other juices save
lemon/lime, it freezes remarkably well.  There is nothing like last fall's
[saIdr\=] thawed out in the springtime and drunk directly off its own ice.

--
John Cowan                                <jcowan@...>
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    -- Calvin, giving Newton's First Law "in his own words"

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