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Re: Kioshu Conlang Compliments!

From:Florian Rivoal <florian.rivoal@...>
Date:Thursday, January 31, 2002, 15:16
A 01:50 31/01/02 -0500, vous avez écrit :
>Now, as for annexes, and this is where my lack of knowledge comes into play, >how would postpositional work as opposed to prepositional in Kioshu? In any >language for that matter, for, you see, I think I'm misunderstanding the >meaning...or perhaps not understanding at all. Please explain, if you would, >prepositional and postpositional and possibly give examples? >Thank you very much! > >Jeff > >
Well I do not spend much time learning Kioshu, so I might mistake. First let me give you an example in japanese, which is a SOV language (people who really speak japanese will, please excuse my over simplifyed sentences, it is just to give an explanation) e.g.1: Juan drinks the water => Juan ha mizu o nomu mizu is "water" nomu is "drink" ha and o are particules. they indicate the role in the sentence of the word BEFORE ha marks the theme, i.e. what you are talking about (more or less the subject) o marks the object of the verb. e.g.2 Carmen goes home => Carmen ha ie e iku ie is "home" iku is "go" e marks the destination of a movement. and it always goes this way. even if the particule indicates the role of a group of word instead of a single one e.g.3 Juan ha oishii mizu o nomu oishi is "good tasting" =>Juan drinks good water o applies to "oishii mizu" As far as I understood your anexes, they work a little bit the same way, exept that they are palce before the word or group of word. But You could have done differently : "Juan nik usikio ogoru" would be "Juan usikio nik ogoru" with postpositional anexes. Ok So what is the difference? Not much. And with this word order it would even be usefull to have an anexe to mark the subject. So what is the point in doing this way. That is easy. As far as I know, most latlang using a SOV structure tend to use post position rather than preposition. To me it shows that human mind generaly find it more easy to use that way. You can do differently, but your language might a bit disturbing then. There is no real nessecity for your conlang to do so, but since most natlang do it, it can maybe ease the process of understanding if you try not to go the reverse way. Florian

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