Re: Sounds of Quenya?

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:42:47 -0500, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
wrote:

> On 1/28/06, Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...> wrote:
>> So, I think I'm getting a handle on the sounds of Quenya. Here's what I
>> understand. Please comment with corrections.
>
>> ë /@/ finally, but trema is used for diaeresis elsewhere
>
> That means "two dots is used for two dots elsewhere". :)
AIUI, trema is two dots, whereas diaeresis is the phenomenon of not
diphthonizing adjacent vowels (much like umlaut is a phenomenon, not
strictly a diacritic).

> And IIRC,
> it's not /@/ finally, it's /e/.
Yes, you're right. The lessons I'm working from talk about schwa in
English all around where they talk about final ë, and I guess I was
reading too hastily, and missed a "not".

>> ry is troublesome to me since I can't grok /r_j/
>
> I suggest trying to hear it in Japanese, which IIRC has a phonemic
> distinction between /r_j/ and /rj/.
AIUI (again), Japanese has /4/ not /r/. I can't speak for /4_j/ and /4j/,
though, but I'll listen out for it.




Paul

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