Re: Cases, again

Nik Taylor wrote:

>"Mark J. Reed" wrote:
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>>On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:09:29PM +0000, Ray Brown wrote:
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>>>I've even heard - I kid you not - "You must come to Richard and I's
>>>house sometime."
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>>Yes, well, the possessive of conjoined nouns has been known to confound
>>many a locutor, rather understandably IMHO.  The correct version of the
>>above is presumably "Richard's and my", but we're used to sticking the
>>possessive at the very end of a noun and the speaker is thinking of
>>"Richard and I/me" as a single noun unit.
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>Not to mention that "Come to Richard and my house" sounds (at least to
>me) like "Come to Richard and come to my house".  To a lesser extent,
>this is true with other nouns, "Richard and Jane" for example, has a
>similar problem, is it "Richard and Jane's house" or "Richard's and
>Jane's house"?  Either way sounds funny to me.  I sometimes just use an
>of-phrase there.  I especially tend to use of-phrases with more complex
>noun phrases, like "the house of a friend of mine" or even more likely,
>"the house of a friend of mine from school", although even with a phrase
>like that, -'s is not impossible, or even particularly rare, in my
>idiolect.  It's just that "of" tends to be more frequent the more
>complex a phrase is.
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For that, I'd say 'to me and Richard's house'.  If you view the Genetive
as a clitic(and it's hard not to), that's pretty regular.