Re: painting the door green

2008/8/24 Lars Finsen <lars.finsen@...>:
> Den 24. aug. 2008 kl. 18.24 skreiv René Uittenbogaard:
>
>> I'm looking for the English grammatical term for what is known in
>> Dutch as the "bepaling van gesteldheid"
>> <http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bepaling_van_gesteldheid>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6eaf8p
>>
>> It is a constituent which is, among others, found in sentences like:
>>
>> He is painting the door *green*.
>> She bought the store *empty*.
>> They applauded *the skin off their hands*.
>
> You must be thinking of the predicative. One of the first (of many) things I
> have learnt on this list.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicative_(adjectival_or_nominal)
>
> LEF
Predicative seems indeed to be the English term for the "bepaling van
gesteldheid", thanks.
It seems to be a collective term for both "depictive" and
"resultative", and "resultative" was the exact term I was looking for.

2008/8/24 Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>:
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:24 PM, René Uittenbogaard <ruittenb@...> wrote:
>> He is painting the door *green*.
>> She bought the store *empty*.
>
> I don't know the term, I'm afraid, but just FYI, the second one
> doesn't work for me - IML, it can only mean "the store was empty
> when she bought it", whereas I gather you intend it to mean "she
> bought everything in the store", on analogy with "he drank it dry".
Yes, I indended it as a resultative - the direct Dutch analogous
sentence works as such for me, and I assumed that in English it would
work the same way. Interesting to hear that it doesn't.

Thanks everyone for the replies :)

René

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