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Re: painting the door green

From:Eugene Oh <un.doing@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 5:32
Then again, I interpreted the "Store empty" sentence the way you intended it
understood (another example haha).
Eugene

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:41 AM, René Uittenbogaard <ruittenb@...>wrote:

> 2008/8/24 Lars Finsen <lars.finsen@...>: > > Den 24. aug. 2008 kl. 18.24 skreiv René Uittenbogaard: > > > >> I'm looking for the English grammatical term for what is known in > >> Dutch as the "bepaling van gesteldheid" > >> <http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bepaling_van_gesteldheid> > >> http://tinyurl.com/6eaf8p > >> > >> It is a constituent which is, among others, found in sentences like: > >> > >> He is painting the door *green*. > >> She bought the store *empty*. > >> They applauded *the skin off their hands*. > > > > You must be thinking of the predicative. One of the first (of many) > things I > > have learnt on this list. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicative_(adjectival_or_nominal) > > > > LEF > > Predicative seems indeed to be the English term for the "bepaling van > gesteldheid", thanks. > It seems to be a collective term for both "depictive" and > "resultative", and "resultative" was the exact term I was looking for. > > 2008/8/24 Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>: > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:24 PM, René Uittenbogaard <ruittenb@...> > wrote: > >> He is painting the door *green*. > >> She bought the store *empty*. > > > > I don't know the term, I'm afraid, but just FYI, the second one > > doesn't work for me - IML, it can only mean "the store was empty > > when she bought it", whereas I gather you intend it to mean "she > > bought everything in the store", on analogy with "he drank it dry". > > Yes, I indended it as a resultative - the direct Dutch analogous > sentence works as such for me, and I assumed that in English it would > work the same way. Interesting to hear that it doesn't. > > Thanks everyone for the replies :) > > René >

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