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Re: A break in the evils of English (or, Sturnan is beautiful)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 2:12
En réponse à Kala Tunu <kalatunu@...>:

> <<< > aherm, maybe we shouldn't flame each other for such trivia. > Christian (not "Christiane", apparently :-) just reports how the > Acasenile would > dream people to pronounce french final <et> and Christophe reports how > 99.99% of > the french metropolitans actually pronounce it.
So Christian, 99.99% is enough to make you admit that I was right this time, whatever your dictionaries say? one day--i was in my
> 5--my > teacher told us to pronounce it /E/ but when i proudly reported so to my > mother > on the threshold back from school at 6 pm (french school is a kid's > nightmare) > she just replied it's dumb and pretentious please don't speak like that > at home > thank you very much go wash your hands now. same with |lait| : it's > supposed to > be /lE/ but everybody says /le/.
Unlike me in this case. Only |-et| I pronounce [e]. |ai| I just always pronounce [E], whatever its position, and I've never heard it considered pretentious. I've rather heard the pronunciation [le] for |lait| considered dumb. a majority of people including me (and
> 100% of > people south to the Loire river) pronounce almost all final /E/ as /e/ > although > it's plain wrong according to the Acadebile: they gave everybody bad > grades and > no "bon point" but it's still not enough. only one punishment would > work: "Tout > le monde privé de dessert !" > as a side note: Christian, you earned what you called for: never argue > with a > french on his/her language. just don't. never ever.
Especially when it's somebody who is well known for actually paying a lot of attention to *how* people speak (sometimes at the expend of *what* they actually say :)) ). So when I claim that something is "common", I always have more than my immediate surrounding to back up my claim. Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.