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Re: Chinese Dialect Question

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 2:13
Quoting Herman Miller <hmiller@...>:

> On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:36:12 +0200, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote: > > >Tangentially, I'm under this impression that the further back in the mouth > a > >sound is produced, the harder it is to get for a non-native learner (with > some > >exceptions - getting [T] and [D] was really hard for me). Anyone else made > the > >same experience? > > I think it's just the trills. I don't have a problem with the Klingon > uvular sounds, but voiced uvular trills are really difficult for me (harder > than clicks, ejectives, pharyngeal fricatives, or doubly articulated > stops!) The only sound I have a harder time with than the uvular trill is > the bilabial trill (not counting the trills that aren't shaded out on the > IPA chart but don't have any symbols, which would be even harder if they're > even possible to pronounce).
Act'ly, I cannot do any uvular sounds reliably, not even [q]. And despite accidentally picking up the pharyngeal frics, I still cannot do [?] reliably. Andreas