Re: odd phrase/translation exercise

Hi!

Mark J. Reed wrotes:
> "I didn't know that you were a philosopher".
In Qthyn|gai (which needed no new stems!):

 Ksyndàtrùiru||kàusty ngyrqùqlùn||gyngùindy`n|auxky.

 'I did not know you were a philosopher.'

 Lit.:
 '(Intuitively) I did not know that (perceivedly) you are a
  thinker-about-the-general-concect-of-life.'

 y` = y with acute.

 Without tones:
   /ks@.nda.tXuI).Xu.|\|\kaU).st@ N@.Xqu.qKu.n|\|\g@.NuI).nd@.n|\aU).xk@/

 With tones:
   /ks@_M.nda_F.tXuI)_L.Xu_H.|\|\kaU)_F.st@_H/
   /N@_M.Xqu_F.qKu_L.n|\|\g@_H.NuI)_F.nd@_L.n|\aU)_H.xk@_M/

 Phew... :-)

Morpheme breakdown:

Unfortunately, my tool does not yet show the semantical valence after
each suffixation.  This process of derivation is quite strict, regular
and predictable: from the top-level valence specification in each
word, one can infer the valence of each step when rewinding added
suffixes, by checking the valence of the lexicon entry for the
morpheme appended last.  However, since it's not shown here, this is
all quite superfluous und confusing information... :-)

Word 1: ksyndàtrùiru||kàusty

  ks        y    nd           àu(n,a) trùi  ru     ||kàu sty
  evidence  case class        val     stem  degree affix stem
  intuition PRD  intelligence A*,P+   know  not    past  1

  (n,a) is a hybrid phoneme that sometimes is /a/, sometimes /n/,
  sometimes nothing and ofter changes its environment in strange
  ways.  Here, it becomes /a/ and then /au+a/ collapses to /a/.

  PRD   = predicative case
  A*,P+ = agent incorporated, patient follows as a free word

Word 2: ngyrqùqlùn||gyngùind?n|auxky

  ng         y    rq        ù(n/a) ...
  evidence   case class     val    ...
  perception PAT  give-life P*     ...

  qlù(³/a) ||ky   ngùi  ndy`    n|au   xky
  stem     affix  affix affix   affix  stem
  life     aorist think to-last person 2
  \__(to_be)_a_philosopher___________/

  (³/a) is another hybrid phoneme: a voiced pharyngeal fric. or /a/.
  Here, it makes the following ||k voiced: n||g.
  And the (n/a) simply disappears.

  PAT = patientive case (marked in the valence infix at the head,
        so this is morphologically identical to PRD)

  P*  = patient incorporated

The verb 'to last' marks durative aspect.  And 'think' without this
suffix means: to be conscious, to witness, depending on aspect.
Without aspect specification, it's underspecified: to think/be
conscious/witness.  The semantical valence is also important: 'think'
needs an agent, while 'witness' needs a patient.  The semantical
agent comes from 'person' -- an ending attached to words that marks
the doer of an action.

'Life'+aorist is 'life as a timeless concept', i.e., not an actual
single life or duratively, but life in general.

  **Henrik

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