Re: joining concultures,was Re: Alternative histories and paralele universes

Carlos Thompson wrote
>Hawksinger wrote:
>>Perhaps the thing to do, is to not have a constant interaction or
>>to do so relative to the real world.  In other words, Nowapan
>>could very well have liberated Boreanesia and now we are just
>>friendly nations. We could occasionally mention something to the
>>affect of; "well, this is how my nation reacts to the Korean
>>missile tests, etc."
>>
>>The main reason I keep Nowapan so neutral is really to keep from
>>screwing up the real world.  There are things that are likely to
>>be unvoidable, such as World War II, but I want to keep it
>>grounded.
>>
This is actually the reason why I haven't figured out Boreanesia's
modern history. The modern world is so complicated and nations today
are more inclined to be affected by each other than in the past. The
main way I have somehow managed is by keeping Boreanesia a small
country which is either a developing economy or a newly
industrialized "tiger-cub" economy. Being small has the advantage
that Boreanesia can't really affect the real world, rather the world
affects it. If it was any bigger, the real world could be screwed up
as you say since Boreanesia would then be able to have a more
influential affect on the real world.

Nowapan is a huge country, is it not? So it must be extremely
neutral if it is to succeed in keeping the real world unaffected by
its presence.

>In the world I've concieve for my Hangkerim people, the way history
>happend in the old world would be the same as in our universe... up
>too Columbus arrival to America.  And the way it is present there
>would've been no USA, and the history of Europe would have vary a
>lot since 1492.
>
>Some time points in the history would be:
-----<snip long timeline>-----

Wow! That's incredibly detailed.

Makes me want to post a me-too just for fun, though not as detailed.
As I already implied, I only have a detailed historical timeline for
Boreanesia's pre-modern history. Most of it will remain a mystery
since Boreanesia's written history does not start until 1076AD which
is the date of the earliest written Boreanesian document ever found.
I also like the idea of keeping Boreanesia's pre-modern history
somewhat of a mystery as it is with many developing countries.

Anyway, below is a very brief outline of Boreanesia's pre-modern
history:

ca.180 million years ago: The Sunda landmass (comprising Borneao,
Malaya, and Boreanesia) broke off from what is today part of Western
Australia.

ca.130 million years ago: Sundaland was a long snake-like landmass
in the now extinct Tethys Ocean on a collision course for the Asian
landmass.

ca.70 million years ago: While Malaya and Borneo become assimilated
with the Asian landmass, Boreanesia brakes off and drifts northeast
bringing with it a collection of animals and plants that have
survived since the Jurassic and early Cretaceous periods.

ca.30000 ~ 25000 years ago: Boreanesia begins to be settled from the
north (Japan) by Proto-Boreanesians.

ca.10000 years ago: Global sea levels rise 100 meters isolating
Boreanesians from contact with other humans for another 6000 years.

ca.5000 years ago: The sago palm first cultivated in Boreanesia.

ca.3500 years ago: First Austronesians arrive introducing more
advanced agriculture, several new crops, and domestication of
Boreanesia's giant flightless goose. Later contacts lead to the
knowledge of metallurgy, backloom weaving, boat-building and ocean
fishing.

ca.1000 years ago: By this time, trade relations are established by
several Boreanesian states with Japan, China, and other Southeast
Asian Kingdoms. The first written document ever found is dated
1076AD. Buddhism first introduced. Seafaring ships widely used
leading to the importation of larger domesticated animals like
ponies.

16th century AD: Ferdinand Magellan 'discovers' Boreanesia, a
collection of several mini-states, and claims all of the archipelago
for Spain. Andres de Urdaneta then discovers a passage across the
northern Pacific making the colonization of the Philippines,
Boreanesia, and the Marianas a profitable venture. Ruy Lopez de
Villalobos establishes a colony in Boreanesia after being
accomodated by some local rulers. Rivalry arises between different
rulers for or against the Spaniards. A chief and his son manage to
unite several Boreanesian rulers in an effort to oust the Spaniards.
The Spanish settlement falls to the Boreanesians. A treaty is signed
allowing Spaniards to reside and carry on trade on a small volcanic
island now called Spanish Island. Relations remain relatively
peaceful thereafter. The son of the chief that united several rulers
is nominated by the rulers as Emperor of Boreanesia.

17-19th centuries AD: Several other foreign powers (including the
Dutch, the Portuguese, the French, and the British) establish trade
relations with Boreanesia through their respective East India
Companies. Boreanesia likewise sends ambassadors to these nations to
establish friendly relations. Foreign experts are also invited to
help modernize the nation, especially during the industrial
revolution.

I have yet to construct the details of Boreanesia's modern history.

Regards,
-Kristian-